Friday, July 4, 2025

Freedom feels better when ChatGPT agrees with you

Happy Independence day to my domestic readers — and congrats on living literally anywhere else to friends from beyond our borders ;) 

How about a nice light hearted and fun frolic through potential flame wars on this fine Friday, yes?

Ahem haha, anyway. In my last post, we had some discussion about training “by the book,” vs by what makes sense to the horse. And Kat left a funny and very relatable comment about a former trainer who said, “ you can teach a flying change by touching their right ear with the dressage whip, but that's not the generally agreed upon aid.

Which naturally brings us to the whole “Form Follows Function” debate. And, doubly naturally, I kinda already know which side I sit — as a rider with, uh, not classically correct posture etc, I’m happy to believe any source that tells me that “Sure, that’s fine — the form will come in time!”

For a balanced view of the positions, however, I turned to ChatGPT and asked for arguments both for and against this theory. The response is as follows:

this conversation is facilitated by the legend himself, charles <3
(there are many ironies in this *ancient* fauxtoshop, and i choose to enjoy ALL of it lol,
including original source material lol)

Extending the “form follows function” debate to riding

In horse training—especially disciplines like dressage—there’s a long-standing tension between prioritizing form (posture, frame, position) and function (balance, engagement, relaxation, responsiveness, etc.).

Here's how we can map pro and con arguments in this context, while respecting the nuances of horse-and-rider biomechanics and training philosophies:


Arguments for "form follows function" in horse training

(Function leads, form emerges as a result)

  1. Organic Development:
    If the horse moves correctly—relaxed, forward, and balanced—correct posture will emerge naturally over time, avoiding forced shapes.

  2. Physical Welfare:
    Forcing posture can lead to strain, tension, or even injury. Function-led training respects the horse’s current physical and mental readiness.

  3. True Engagement:
    Engagement of the hindquarters, lifting of the back, and flexion of the poll cannot be “shaped” from the front—they must be developed from correct movement.

  4. Emotional Harmony:
    Function-first training tends to emphasize trust, responsiveness, and softness, avoiding conflict-based methods used to achieve a look.

  5. Long-Term Soundness:
    A horse that moves with functional alignment stays healthier and sounder over time, even if the form develops more slowly.


dear sir charles, the **perfect* biomechanical form <3 <3 <3

Arguments against a strict “function first” stance

(Or, arguments for “form enables function”)

  1. Correct Form teaches Function:
    Some postural shapes—like a lifted back, flexed poll, or engaged hind legs—can help the horse learn correct movement. Without some guidance toward those forms, function may not develop properly.

  2. Neuromuscular Training:
    Like a ballet dancer using specific positions to build the right muscles and awareness, postural training can “educate” the horse’s body about how to move better.

  3. Rider Position Affects Horse Function:
    For riders especially, correct posture is often a prerequisite for functional riding. Poor rider form can block or mislead the horse.

  4. Discipline-Specific Requirements:
    In disciplines like dressage or equitation, specific frames and postures arefunctional within that context (e.g., collection, lateral movements).

  5. Form Provides Consistency:
    Using consistent shape cues and expectations (when done sensitively) can create clearer communication and structure for both horse and rider.


Bridging the Two:

Many modern trainers adopt a "function informs form" or "form and function co-evolve" approach. They might use postural aids lightly to educate the horse's body, but always monitor function (relaxation, rhythm, thrust, etc.) to avoid forcing.


well ya know. at least that’s the idea!
SO. Dear Reader. As with just about everything with horses, there doesn’t seem to be one clear answer here. Many right ways, few wrong ways. 

I’m curious — you already know where I stand slouch, but what do you think? 






9 comments:

  1. Awww, the Charlie post you linked.

    It is funny I was discussing something close to this with my friend after she watched our latest dressage lesson. Initially BB starts out kinda stiff and resistant. But then through exercises, he ends up going softly and round. So I'm 100% on the form follows function. (Also, I whined about my slouching in my most recent post and did think to myself "is it really causing any problems??" LOL)

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    1. That’s a really interesting point about the role of the warm up too… definitely agreed that it takes me personally a little limbering up before I can hold my best posture

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  2. To be honest I’m very annoying and say that the discussion is an artificial parsing. I honestly believe that you need to work on both. For example, i can lift a heavy weight (function) but if my posture is wrong (form) I’m going to hurt myself. If I lift a lighter weight with perfect form I’m not going to improve.

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  3. If everyone rode like my boy Flacco we'd all be Olympians, I said what I said.

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  4. Oh Charles <3 <3 <3 How lovely it is to see his sweet face!

    I honestly don't think the two can really be separated (coming from a very dressage point of view!)---that form IS function, and if it isn't, then it has no place in the sport. This ain't a beauty pageant.

    (I can't speak to how any of it relates to jumping and galloping. Y'all are bonkers in all the best ways, and I fully respect that)

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  5. Loooool, the fauxtoshop. 🤣 I agree that the two concepts are too intertwined to cleave them apart. It makes me think of a vicious cycle I often experience with Pyro. If I don't sit evenly on his back, then he will be blocked from lifting his back and traveling forward in a relaxed manner with correct bend (Rider Form Affects Horse Function). However, if he doesn't lift his back and give me something even to sit on, it's nearly impossible for me to find that even, balanced seat (Horse Function Affects Rider Form). Maybe that says something about my skill level as a rider, but it feels like a dance between the two.

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  6. I'm in the you can't have one without the other boat. But also, sometimes you have to do things ugly before you can do them pretty. So maybe I lean toward form follows function.

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