tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post3052404261668733261..comments2024-03-29T03:54:36.711-07:00Comments on 'Fraidy Cat Eventing: Charlie's Great Hoof Yearemmahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05686949099663199382noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-48972978722808471152022-11-04T06:53:43.539-07:002022-11-04T06:53:43.539-07:00dude i am convinced you can fill a room with world...dude i am convinced you can fill a room with world class professionals only to find out none of them agree on what might seem like super basic details on care and mgmt.... ugh lol... and feet are just so hard and so complicated, i really don't know the slightest about it except that whenever my horse shows up lame (like he is right now), my vet basically has to walk me off the ledge from say "omg what if we just injected them again tho?" which.... eventually my vet will stop saying no to that and that's what we'll do lolemmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05686949099663199382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-21420777378764092912022-11-04T06:28:54.253-07:002022-11-04T06:28:54.253-07:00Very interesting re the pour in! A friend at the b...Very interesting re the pour in! A friend at the barn was showing me the 3D printed pads she just got put on her horse 😳. And yeah I was a bit confused by them saying bad for eventers because our summers are so wet and even when it is not raining much, there is dew almost every morning pretty substantially 🤷. Thanks for the feedback from Charlie though! It's so hard to navigate when the professionals don't agree. Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11446230051948762357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-54002231769600095042022-11-03T14:23:44.942-07:002022-11-03T14:23:44.942-07:00Ha and the blogosphere of shared info wins again! ...Ha and the blogosphere of shared info wins again! I have actually not ever tried anything other than leather pads for Charlie and they seem to work just fine for him (6 yrs and counting) ((tho uh he’s actually lame rn so who knows!!)). Obvi my knowledge is kinda limited but my understanding is that the leather is kinda “step 1” with additional materials / methods available if more progressive steps are needed. It could also be that the environment around here during the months when charlie wears pads (March to November basically) is very different from Florida. Idk. One thing I did recently hear was that a lot of pour-in methods can lead to iffy fits bc the pour in depth when the hoof is lifted off the ground is different from when the horse is standing full weight on the pad - and even a few millimeters too thick can make a negative difference. Again tho that’s just something I heard idk if it’s relevant for Ben. So…. Long story short, the leather seems to work for Charlie in our drought-ridden concrete ground summers… but maybe aren’t as good in Florida? Idk…emmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05686949099663199382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-44847201910394663742022-11-03T13:35:32.515-07:002022-11-03T13:35:32.515-07:00I hunted this post up because I thought Charlie wa...I hunted this post up because I thought Charlie was in leather pads and just needed to be reminded. Part of Ben's ouchy feet this past week was blamed on the leather pads with dental molding under them. Which is what he's been in for a while. And also was what made Yoshi happy. But my vet and trainer were saying they hate leather pads in event horses and feel like plastic pads are comfier for them. Because when they get wet the leather gets hard. Do you have thoughts or opinions on this? Has Charlie ever been in any other kind of pads? Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11446230051948762357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-20199168359135783822021-11-23T17:31:32.545-08:002021-11-23T17:31:32.545-08:00So glad you seemed to have found the right recipe!...So glad you seemed to have found the right recipe! My junior hunter had terrible feet, but it was so long ago, I can't remember what all we did to try and help him. I do remember there was one show season that a very significant part of his hoof was made of hoof patch. <br />Charlie is so lucky to have you for a mom! Finding what works took some real work on your part!Stacie Seidmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11421021003654717894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-82839511419841950892021-11-23T13:31:32.423-08:002021-11-23T13:31:32.423-08:00Great use of Data and planning on your part! Now t...Great use of Data and planning on your part! Now throw a party! :DL.Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05052638724440787772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-45788118392421373902021-11-23T11:07:05.199-08:002021-11-23T11:07:05.199-08:00Love this! Sounds like you have the right combo of...Love this! Sounds like you have the right combo of products/timing/farrier schedule that works for Sir Charles. <br /><br />Fred has decent hooves (no crumbling) BUT he gets abscesses from stomping at the flies and from the frozen mud we get in shoulder seasons. Fly boots worked great for him, but he is a sensitive soul that got mud fever from the dew getting in his boots. Sigh...will adapt next year and take them off over night. And maybe think about shoes next spring. It certainly takes a while to sort these creatures out!Laurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07940386405998853917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-34903600371089087182021-11-23T10:53:56.713-08:002021-11-23T10:53:56.713-08:00Loooove this!! I know those feet have been on your...Loooove this!! I know those feet have been on your mind for years. So glad they looked so good this year! I know for my boys, fly boots are 100% necessary up front to stay sound all summer. They'll just pound their feet to oblivion. Keratex I use way less, but I find applying to Bast after a ride where we spent a lot of time in the creek (but the other ground is hard) is really helpful for avoiding abscesses and bruising/general sore feet. The other big thing I'm learning is how short Bast likes his hind heels in order to feel comfortable in collection. Like, I can really tell a difference when he's due for a good trim. Which reminds me... He's due today. 😂Austenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13004088333430762406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-40270001672541448992021-11-23T09:30:11.970-08:002021-11-23T09:30:11.970-08:00ha i hope you're right!! i've been very lu...ha i hope you're right!! i've been very lucky to have a lot of good advice coming from the folks on charlie's team and not too much in the way of opposing philosophies.... that still wasn't really any match for my lack of knowledge tho, like i wouldn't even realize there was a problem until my horse was walking out of shoes and sore AF.... poor horse is teaching me so much! emmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05686949099663199382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-26067145962972663182021-11-23T09:28:09.668-08:002021-11-23T09:28:09.668-08:00ha seriously tho... it's easy to shrug off any...ha seriously tho... it's easy to shrug off any concerns if you've never actually had to deal with it before. but ugh, actually having to deal with it is the worst... honestly tho i don't mind the upkeep itself -- esp if it works and the horse is sound. the hardest part with charlie was that i was constantly behind the 8-ball, constantly playing catch-up and dealing with the fallout... at least now i feel like i know what to do to prevent the problems in the first place (hopefully!)emmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05686949099663199382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-29182303968817586022021-11-23T09:26:06.364-08:002021-11-23T09:26:06.364-08:00oooh that's interesting that you like keratex ...oooh that's interesting that you like keratex for the wet too -- i usually get much more lazy about applications once our ground turns after hurricane season... and esp once charlie's growth slows over the winter. but... maybe i shouldn't?? lolemmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05686949099663199382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-34326559663315480762021-11-23T09:08:58.587-08:002021-11-23T09:08:58.587-08:00I feel like hoof stuff is just the absolute worst ...I feel like hoof stuff is just the absolute worst and hardest to tackle. It's shrouded in mystery embattled by warring opinions of farriers, veterinarians, body workers, and other farriers, and the deeply individual needs of each horse in a specific climate and work routine.<br /><br />All that to say -- it is SUPER that you've gotten Charlie's feet into a routine that works so well for both of you. Hopefully this effect compounds upon itself and you have even more improvement and better feet in 2022!Nicolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834098473974912416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-22859593709406459142021-11-23T08:56:59.405-08:002021-11-23T08:56:59.405-08:00This is such a cool change to see and what worked ...This is such a cool change to see and what worked and what didn't. After dealing with all that nonsense with Bobby's feet Opie's ppe consisted solely of sending a hundred feet pics to my farrier to get her approval, and fortunately that's paid off because I don't think I could mentally deal with the upkeep shit feet require again 😂Carlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17308477892024999793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-76729060342879609712021-11-23T08:43:38.424-08:002021-11-23T08:43:38.424-08:00Yay Charlie! (and Emma!)
Keratex for our wet winte...Yay Charlie! (and Emma!)<br />Keratex for our wet winters is a go to here. I've unfortunately never seen amazing results with supplements either - it's all about my farrier and good basic diet and hoof care, it seems.Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05438372155463437107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-40795839570509072872021-11-23T06:32:27.703-08:002021-11-23T06:32:27.703-08:00omgosh yea it's been a journey with this horse...omgosh yea it's been a journey with this horse, whom i sorta-lovingly refer to as the "king of the dings".... lol. here's hoping Yoshi can keep it all together now after giving you such a bumpy start !emmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05686949099663199382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-51523127826097034332021-11-23T06:30:32.669-08:002021-11-23T06:30:32.669-08:00ha for sure, everybody seems to have a stance on t...ha for sure, everybody seems to have a stance on the relative efficacy of topical hoof applications... and honestly, while i'm pretty convinced this keratex formula works for charlie, it's entirely possible that *any* similar compound would work when used the way i use it (near daily from about march to october). like i have some friends who swear by farrier's fix instead. or, ya know, it's entirely possible that the keratex works for us bc of the types of ground conditions we see (dry, hard) -- but maybe it's less effective in wetter environments? i really don't know haha -- tho i'd say it's a reasonably low cost thing to try? emmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05686949099663199382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-17357578911341880522021-11-23T06:27:55.022-08:002021-11-23T06:27:55.022-08:00definitely agreed -- it's taken me a long time...definitely agreed -- it's taken me a long time to understand just how uniquely individual horse care can be, i always want there to be "one true way" and... there just isn't lol -- even things that worked for charlie at one point in time might not work later ¯\_(ツ)_/¯emmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05686949099663199382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-33532630339177411962021-11-23T06:26:37.486-08:002021-11-23T06:26:37.486-08:00ha yes, 'persistent' is definitely one wor...ha yes, 'persistent' is definitely one word for it.... zealous and obsessive might be others too LOL -- whatever it takes tho! emmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05686949099663199382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-18882825968473031082021-11-23T06:25:31.328-08:002021-11-23T06:25:31.328-08:00dude for real... and not just "tb feet" ...dude for real... and not just "tb feet" but also the environmental impact on those feet --- living conditions, ground conditions, turn out patterns... it all gets so complicated lol! honestly it used to bug me that each individual farrier might have specifically opposite recommendations... but these days i'm pretty cool with just using the advice i pay for LOL! emmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05686949099663199382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-41535504342214763532021-11-23T06:07:30.612-08:002021-11-23T06:07:30.612-08:00Woohoo! Congrats on a great hoof year and therefor...Woohoo! Congrats on a great hoof year and therefore sound horse year! I'm hoping 2022 will be the year I can say that about Yosh. Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11446230051948762357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-46136415872920097362021-11-23T05:56:58.349-08:002021-11-23T05:56:58.349-08:00Yay Charlie! I feel this, I've been noticing m...Yay Charlie! I feel this, I've been noticing more crumbling in L's feet closer to farrier appointments, and while I have always suggested keratex, his owner is of the opinion it does not do much, but it clearly helps! Annahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06738340998788890007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-12404037040876297452021-11-23T05:36:20.368-08:002021-11-23T05:36:20.368-08:00this is awesome. It underlines the point that ther...this is awesome. It underlines the point that there is rarely one single answer but more complicated. Irish has crappy feet. I used fly boots this year and I think they made a difference. TeresaAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05311118900077951863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-65652253662663622772021-11-23T05:12:41.444-08:002021-11-23T05:12:41.444-08:00This is great to hear! You've really had to be...This is great to hear! You've really had to be persistent about this, and it's nice to see it pay off.Jenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04292565760924146966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-76915832701339105582021-11-23T04:09:42.698-08:002021-11-23T04:09:42.698-08:00Thoroughbred feet are really interesting. Also sup...Thoroughbred feet are really interesting. Also super interesting about the feed through supplements. But every time I drop off a supplement, I notice a change (negative) in Nay. Coincidence or causation. No idea. But I don't know if he gets the best feed either but when your horse can't eat soy, needs calories, AND is extremely picky, there are very few (read: basically no) options. So I pump in vitamins, minerals, and gut supplements for now. <br /><br />Nay has surprisingly decent feet but we transitioned him to shoes this summer during one of the early dry spells (before those seized to ever exist again) as the hard ground just was making him a little foot sore. That said, his issue is he has really SOFT feet. They're not crumbly, but they're just soft. <br /><br />We did about a month or so of keretex: daily for a week then 2-3 times a week. Basically, I brought him in, cleaned out his feet, and hoped that by morning his feet would dry enough that I could apply the keretex (my farrier was adamant that I don't apply if his feet were damp). But, this last cycle supposedly they were better? Anyway, he wants me to be careful that I don't go from too soft of a hoof to too hard of a hoof so the keretex might be an occasional thing for us. <br /><br />I've had horses with terrible feet (Batt). Horses with mismanaged turned excellent feet (Subi). But never anyone with good but soft feet. So this is different one for me. Sarah (threechestnuts)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17295039309380470750noreply@blogger.com