tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post9138679472554434512..comments2024-03-29T06:50:02.941-07:00Comments on 'Fraidy Cat Eventing: FEH East Coast Championships: Conformationemmahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05686949099663199382noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-66754380794076188292018-09-26T11:28:00.348-07:002018-09-26T11:28:00.348-07:00Sounds quite similar to hunter breeding where hors...Sounds quite similar to hunter breeding where horse shenanigans are ignored. There are some really great ways to cover up some of the flaws of a horse by standing them up a certain way or choosing to lead them in others. L.Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05052638724440787772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-67653803244227390412018-09-25T07:23:43.874-07:002018-09-25T07:23:43.874-07:00very interesting! I show halter in the QH world a...very interesting! I show halter in the QH world and they don't score the classes at all - it is all just the eye of the judge. Personal preference comes into play big time! There are also regular halter classes (judged on horse's appearance, muscle etc. and conformation) and then there is a performance halter class (more based on conformation, fitness and riding suitability). Seems a bit weird to separate the two, but some regular halter horses are such terrible movers they never get broke to ride! Crazy when you think of it that way... lol <br /><br />Also very interesting that the judges can confer and discuss scores! I've scribed trail/reining/western riding a lot for QH shows and the judges have to be separated enough so they can't hear each other talking to their scribes! Laurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07940386405998853917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-33494398453879850662018-09-24T17:22:18.089-07:002018-09-24T17:22:18.089-07:00honestly i'm not totally sure that the scribe ...honestly i'm not totally sure that the scribe absolutely *had* to be standing for this. it seemed to work for the judges, who were both relatively mobile, but then again i basically just stayed in the same spot under the tent anyway. the YEH stuff i've scribed for, including the jumping phases, was all done sitting tho for sure and i really enjoyed that tooemmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05686949099663199382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-71344339986859757522018-09-24T17:20:32.689-07:002018-09-24T17:20:32.689-07:00i know, right?!? tho honestly part of me is relati...i know, right?!? tho honestly part of me is relatively convinced that most of these incredible well bred creatures end up owned by amateurs or otherwise private type riders. i feel like a lot of them start to get priced out quickly esp for those professionals who don't necessarily have a large support network of owners. but i could be wrong about that- it's so hard to tell sometimes!emmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05686949099663199382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-47376710302010082342018-09-24T14:38:10.514-07:002018-09-24T14:38:10.514-07:00Sounds like a really cool opportunity to learn. I ...Sounds like a really cool opportunity to learn. I can't stand for just about any period of time (previous broken back), but I'd love to sit nearby and just listen. I guess that's called a clinic, but you know what I mean.Olivia @ DIY Horse Ownershiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16138490796669110523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-63063549452960655402018-09-24T13:51:39.813-07:002018-09-24T13:51:39.813-07:00I can't wait to see which of these horses are ...I can't wait to see which of these horses are with the pro riders in a few years kicking ass and taking names!!!! Bee Teahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11225059723348875614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-68810498916749405332018-09-24T13:36:41.842-07:002018-09-24T13:36:41.842-07:00definitely super interesting and educational! like...definitely super interesting and educational! like it's not super applicable for me bc i'm not exactly involved in developing equine talent for the future of my sport.... but simultaneously i really like learning more about this stuff and honing my eye!emmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05686949099663199382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-70020009107105875502018-09-24T13:23:09.693-07:002018-09-24T13:23:09.693-07:00Very interesting!! Thanks for sharing Emma. Sounds...Very interesting!! Thanks for sharing Emma. Sounds like an extremely educational experience, and definitely something i could use to learn more about. Kelly the HnkyHanoverianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18336047158009394408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-33084317335797996532018-09-24T13:08:35.809-07:002018-09-24T13:08:35.809-07:00yea i mean, i haven't spent a lot of time stud...yea i mean, i haven't spent a lot of time studying conformation bc it's kinda one of those things like, 'so what? what am i going to do with this knowledge?' <br /><br />like i'm not going to learn about some important angle or whatever, decide charlie isn't well built enough, and then sell him haha. like, no, at a certain point the horse is what he is and we as riders just work with what we have. from a bigger perspective as a horse person tho, i see a lot of value in continuing to learn at least the broad strokes of what makes a "nice" horse and key ways to evaluate any given horse, even if i'm not likely to put much of it to practice by doing a lot of buying and/or selling. and perhaps more applicably, it's nice to know which sort of specifics a judge might be looking for in evaluating a horse so that i can better understand what to highlight in my own horse.emmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05686949099663199382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-45048534525372617102018-09-24T12:13:33.748-07:002018-09-24T12:13:33.748-07:00How cool! I'd love to scribe for something lik...How cool! I'd love to scribe for something like this to pick up tidbits like you did from the judges. I learn more about conformation every year. It interests me a lot, but it's just not something I prioritize currently with what free time I do have to learn more about. I know there are lots of resources out there and when I one day shop for another horse, I'll definitely utilize them, but that day is pretty far away, so I'm not fussing with it yet!Liz Stouthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18267806576736655184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-10598706640831741912018-09-24T11:13:37.376-07:002018-09-24T11:13:37.376-07:00definitely!! we didn't have a whole lot of tim...definitely!! we didn't have a whole lot of time for discussion between the scribes and the judges at this event, unfortunately. with the weather, everyone was very focused on keeping the classes moving so the poor baby horses didn't have to be tested beyond reason in the nasty conditions. plus each score sheet had kinda a lot of administrative stuff i had to write in, so i mostly had my head down writing for the whole time, without interrupting much with questions. emmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05686949099663199382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-21251214893213534692018-09-24T11:11:52.554-07:002018-09-24T11:11:52.554-07:00it was super fun, and super interesting!!! and act...it was super fun, and super interesting!!! and actually the weather, while wet, wasn't as cold and raw as when we did that YEH clinic last year haha. there weren't quite as many learning opportunities as a scribe vs attending that clinic, but it was still very very cool!emmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05686949099663199382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-77696670929464361202018-09-24T11:11:02.350-07:002018-09-24T11:11:02.350-07:00yea agreed. it was esp useful for me to hear the j...yea agreed. it was esp useful for me to hear the judges be so dismissive of a big expressive trot when the walk wasn't as strong.emmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05686949099663199382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-17840401409203495702018-09-24T11:09:00.436-07:002018-09-24T11:09:00.436-07:00oh man, yea these classes are not an insignificant...oh man, yea these classes are not an insignificant financial outlay, i can totally understand being hesitant about that! and yea the judges definitely felt pretty strongly about conformation, esp in the lower limbs. the conformation and movement are held entirely separately tho - both in the judge's scoring sheets and from my impression of their discussions on the horses. there were horses they liked very much in build and conformation who were kinda just so so in movement, and others who were extremely impressive movers but had issues in the limbs. my interpretation from scribing is that they'd pick the well conformed horse over the fancy mover, but that the model upper level prospect would be both.emmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05686949099663199382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-80733021774980313972018-09-24T10:31:32.519-07:002018-09-24T10:31:32.519-07:00I love scribing for this very reason - being able ...I love scribing for this very reason - being able to hear the judges commentary, asking them questions and figuring out what/why they're scoring. And I've found that when I do ask questions, the judges are always super happy to chat with me and explain. Love doing that! Sounds like such a fun opportunity for you despite the rain! Mandyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14485570296592298816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-9744357657970391202018-09-24T10:08:53.157-07:002018-09-24T10:08:53.157-07:00Wow what fun that must have been (albeit a bit wet...Wow what fun that must have been (albeit a bit wet!!) LOL <br /><br />I am glad a few yearlings actually looked like yearlings (cleaned up well presented yearlings but yearlings). <br /><br />Glad you had a chance to do that. That would be so interesting to watch!! Martidollhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02615603986854526853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-86630228405072294042018-09-24T10:06:19.063-07:002018-09-24T10:06:19.063-07:00That sounds so interesting! And it makes good sen...That sounds so interesting! And it makes good sense that good leg conformation is rewarded above fancy-ness, happy to hear the judges feel that way too.KateRosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12870548960430847612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-43330040273222648812018-09-24T09:14:31.172-07:002018-09-24T09:14:31.172-07:00I REALLY wanted to take my yearling filly to an FE...I REALLY wanted to take my yearling filly to an FEH event this year. Not that I think she would score super well (she's Appendix QH, and while *I* think she's super cute, probably not upper level eventing potential), but just to get a professional's opinion on her conformation. However, monies have been put more toward my gelding that I'm competing with, so the baby stuff has to go on the back burner this year :(<br /><br />I'm like you, I don't know a ton about conformation, especially with lower limbs, but I'm always trying to increase my knowledge. I put more stock in temperament and brain when buying a horse (although I have been side tracked before by *fancy* qualities), but I also understand how good conformation lends itself to better soundness and longer usability. Especially when buying a young horse, the conformation and movement play a much bigger role in deciding to purchase, since the horse doesn't have any time under saddle and you can't evaluate their rideability. I love your posts from these events, and am living vicariously through Amanda at $900 FB Pony as she preps Presto for FEH champs!Nicole Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08609448461734913799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-39213102160409101602018-09-24T08:06:51.489-07:002018-09-24T08:06:51.489-07:00ditto - i'm always super curious to hear like,...ditto - i'm always super curious to hear like, "what is the first thing you look at when evaluating a horse?" bc i have one friend who would say "100% i look at the feet first" and another friend who is all about looking at the neck first. all with different reasons and based on different experiences etc. emmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05686949099663199382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-15658267753612311672018-09-24T08:05:18.532-07:002018-09-24T08:05:18.532-07:00What a cool experience! I love hearing about what ...What a cool experience! I love hearing about what other people prioritize in horses. Carlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17308477892024999793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-82946902193307063922018-09-24T07:01:55.719-07:002018-09-24T07:01:55.719-07:00it was definitely a really cool experience!! hones...it was definitely a really cool experience!! honestly i didn't get to really watch as much as i wanted bc there was a fair amount of administrative stuff to fill out on each test sheet. so i spent a lot of time listening with my eyes down vs being able to see what the judges were describing. would love another opportunity as a spectator too!emmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05686949099663199382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-80006555513230213692018-09-24T06:58:19.749-07:002018-09-24T06:58:19.749-07:00That would be fascinating. I loved that filly '...That would be fascinating. I loved that filly 'oooh I'm stepping in mud puddles!'TeresaAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05311118900077951863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-61282816201639652852018-09-24T06:15:14.238-07:002018-09-24T06:15:14.238-07:00lol they sure are cute when they're all gussie...lol they sure are cute when they're all gussied up and braided in their pretty name plate halters or show bridles. but...... haha yea i think i'll just enjoy from a far and stick with my nice emotionally mature riding horse!!!emmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05686949099663199382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-932439930694780998.post-27086954046112033522018-09-24T05:45:24.415-07:002018-09-24T05:45:24.415-07:00the shoe table is fascinating to me - especially t...the shoe table is fascinating to me - especially that most of them had pads!! <br /><br />seeing FEH/YEH stuff always makes me want to buy a real baby baby... theyre sooo cute and full of potential!Purple Meganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179696153116063779noreply@blogger.com